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Qiuyue -

Hi

I am in need of books, DVDs and the like to be used in a seminar on "sex and relations in china".
I have searched on Amazon a lot, and found many interesting academic textbooks.
I would, however, also like to read a few novels (modern or antique : ) and watch movies that
could illustrate or raise thoughts on this topic. Study-material that is (yes, there will be real
stories invovled as well )

So, all recommendations are highly appreciated

Thanks



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gougou -

I guess I can't help you with the primary aim of your search, but this (just came in through
Danwei today) might come in handy.










gato -

Are you teaching it in China? To what kind of students? Can you give us some examples of what you
are going to teach?










furyou_gaijin -

Judging by the title, I thought this thread was about finding a 'girl-friend' for purposes of
studying the language... Highly recommended.










MartinF -

"sex and relations in china"

well I recommend all kinds of things. First some DVD's:

these are the English titles (or romanization of Chinese titles). You will have to find the
Chinese titles if you want to find them in China:

"Ju Dou" village life, marriage and infidelity. Starring Gong Li.
"In the mood for love" Hong Kong city life in the 1960's, marriage, infidelity. Starring Chow
Mo-wan (Tony Leung) and Su Li-zhen (Maggie Cheung).
"Beijing Bicycle" teenage love in modern Beijing.
"Chungking Express" Hong Kong city life in the 1990's. Frustrated, unrequited love.

One common theme in most of these movies is unrequited love. Meaning love is never consummated.
Oh, and lot of frustrated people who can't communicate with eachother. So in many of these movies
sex never actually happens because nobody actually tells their partner how they feel. Or nobody
acts on their feelings. It's a little strange for westerners because we almost always tell
eachother how we feel. We tend to be more proactive about dating and sex. It's OK for women to
make the first move.

I also have an American friend in Beijing. We both used to work at Disney on animated films. He
moved to Beijing and he writes an advice column for Chinese students with love problems. It's
pretty good. Here are links to some of his columns, so far. He writes for some English language
newspaper in Beijing.

http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483444-O-LB
http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483521-O-LB
http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483561-O-LB
http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483480-O-LB

Finally, I also have some experience in this area and can compare it to western "sex and
relations" in quite a lot of detail. You probably should e-mail me on some specifics, if you want.

Martin










yonitabonita -

Hey,

I gave a lecture on this very topic several years back. I can't for the hell of me find my
bibliography, but a few names come to mind:

- Judith Farquar, "Food and Sex in Post- Industrialist China".

- Jianying Zha by Jianying Zha, "China Pop: How Soap Operas, Tabloids and Bestsellers Are
Transforming a Culture"

- Mu zi mei - If you do a google search on her, you'll probably find some very interesting
material. She basically had sex with a heap of guys and posted her secrets all over the internet.
The internet readership of her blog was phenomenal. So, the whole phenomenon was very telling in
terms of the development of sex in China - if you compare sexual attitudes in China in the 70's to
that of today, (ok, Muzimei was 5 years ago now), there's arguably a huge change.

- Shanghai Baby will give you a perspective on sex in China.

- Roman Weber, "Made in China" talks about youth underground, and there's something in his book
about sex.

I hope this helps.

Y

edit: whoops, I just realised you didn't need any academic texts. Should read more carefully.










gato -

Check out this video about speed dating:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Ra_BgL3mIfw/










jonaspony -

I am interested in how Asian women have become sexual commodities in the West - why all the
interest in Asian sex? Why has the phrase "me love you longtime" become so entrenched in English
language that I found it as a label on a dog's rawhide chewtoy? Why are reports of Chinese sex
habits such world news that the BBC reports them at about two-yearly intervals? (When the
extramarital-sex statistics are investigated further it shows the change is far less significant
than they propose i.e. most of the extramarital sex occurs between people who later were married).

China's sexual history is colouful and titillating. But does it seem to anyone else that
Westerners have a slightly morbid desire to see China become Western, and most importantly, to
adopt Western morals? That modernisation is not enough - that it must be Westernised?










Qiuyue -

Thank you all so much for quick and informative responses.

As for the seminar, it is kind of privately organised, with foreign students attending.

I hadn´t heard about "China Pop", but also it is already more than a decade since it was written,
it might be outdated??

"Shanghai baby" is certainly on my list, but I think I need something to "counter" that one. I am
absolutely sure it is not representative of the life of girls and boys, men and women in more
"remote" (as it is called...) areas.
And I think my biggest challenge is to find material on those more ordinary people of the villages
and smaller and poorer towns of China. Maybe "Private life under socialism" at least could give
som historical insights.


Has anyone read "The culture of sex in ancient china" (rakita goldin)?










simonlaing -

Dear Qiuyue,

If your chinese is up to par, there is a good recent 3 years old , movie called cell phone or
shouji 手机 about how the advances in cell phone empower wives of VIP people like this talk show
host to find out about lovers and even get evidence to black mail people.

Also I wonder if a look at the law codes might help, often if divorces are not mutual they can
take a very long time, so the man often can set the terms , even sometime keeping custody of
children who get promptly sent to the grandparents for being raised.

There is are still issues surrounding divorce in China, with certain official univerisities nad
other government agenicies limiting promotion in their jobs,
have fun,
Simon












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You cannot *book* a return date more than that far in advance, however I believe you should be
able to change the dates up to a year from your departuare date, you just have to wait until it
gets closer to that date before changing

Some airlines will give you the date change free if you mention that their online booking engine
doesn't allow return dates within 12m of departure but more than 12m from now. Just get an email
confirming this.

If you can find a reasonable single fare now, & have any interest whatsoever in heading south , in
a years time, you might be able to get a cheap singles home from there with oasis hongkong or just
possibly air asia (although I'm not sure whether they have near term plans for flights to the US)



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Poemba -

Hey guys, I know this is an old post but with the new regulations I was wondering if anything
concerning this subject has changed.
I wonder if it's still possible to book a one way ticket and get an X visa. Since I want to study
in China for one year and travel a bit, I can't book any return tickets. I want to go to china
from the 20th of August till the beginning of August next year. I hope that's possible since my
school ends in july or so, but I want to travel around a bit before I go home.










Lu -

I'd buy a year ticket, a return ticket that is valid for one year. In your case that is just
enough (end of August to beginning of August, right?). You have to set a return date when you buy
it, but you can almost always change that later on, although you may have to pay a bit extra (ask
the airline before you buy the ticket to make sure).

En sukses met het regelen van een visum.










Poemba -

Hi Lu,

Thanks for the info!! En met dat visum moet het wel goed komen












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gougou -

limaygolf, and also Raye, it would help if you could explain to people what's so good about the
magazines you recommend. For an example, have a look at wushijiao's post above!



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skylee -

I've come across this staff magazine "Word Power / 文訊" which I find interesting. It is
published by the HK government department responsible for languages/translation and covers
different topics mainly on the use of the Chinese language. Being a staff magazine it is fairly
easy to read. But as you can expect, it is in traditional Chinese. There are also a few columns
written in English in each issue.

The electronic versions of the magazine can be found here ->
http://www.csb.gov.hk/english/publication/2006.html

My recommendation obviously does not meet the Admin's requirement in #11, but I hate it when
people tell me what / how to write.










gougou -



Quote:

My recommendation obviously does not meet the Admin's requirement in #11

Actually I think you're recommendation is great! You describe what's in the magazine, and I'm able
to decide whether I'm interested in a matter of seconds.

I am sure that the magazines that Raye and limaygolf suggest are great, too, but by just reading
their posts, I couldn't judge whether those magazines might be interesting for me or not (even
though I can take somewhat of a guess what 中国国家地理 might be about... )












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redApple -

介意
when somegbody do something wrong(more or less)to you ,if you don't care about,that means
"你不介意"

在意
when someone do something is not important to you,if you don't care about ,that means"你不在意"

my words is not according to the grammar ,just ah...we used to.



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HashiriKata -



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Originally Posted by redApple

my words is not according to the grammar ,just ah...we used to.


As I'm thinking along the line of what you're saying, I don't 在意/ 在乎 what the grammar may
say.












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ipsi() -

I'm vaguely interested in acquiring 红楼梦、三国演义、水浒传和西游记, but
preferably as Ebooks. They seem old enough that they're no longer in copyright I don't suppose
anyone knows if they exist in the format for Palm eReader? Or even just if they exist in
electronic form at all?

Also, my Chinese is not good enough to understand them yet, I'm merely looking into this because I
can.

Actually, while I'm at it, does anyone know if there are electronic versions of other famous texts
floating around? Along with a list of famous texts?

Thanks all!

- ipsi



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roddy -

Palm Reader or any other actual ebook format I don't think so - in fact, if you know of any Palm
format which will read Chinese characters, let me know.

However, finding the books themselves shouldn't be too hard - I turned up one just by searching
for the title, and I suspect the others will be easy too - try adding dianzishu or dianziban
(where's my characters gone! ) as well.

That's in HTML format and there's also a download. What you'll need to do to get that onto your
palm is basically do some copying and pasting into a word document and then read it via docs to go
- not ideal, but it works. Best thing to do is transfer the file to an SD card and then put it in
your palm - using the docs to go or palm file transfer programs can sometimes cause problems. Also
make sure you've got English file names.










ipsi() -

Actually, I've found that by using CJK OS, I can read Simplified Chinese (and probably
Traditional, but that's an unknown factor) by doing the following:

Write a text file using Palm's Markup Language
Save that text file in GB2312 encoding, run it through palms eBook creation software, hot-sync,
make sure that CJK OS is enabled, and away you go. Of course, if you want to read a non-Chinese
Ebook then I'd recommend disabling CJK OS as it seems to interfere with eReader. And mixing
Chinese and English would be a bad idea as CJK OS intereferes with the English.

What actually hurts is that I can't view Pinyin. I'm not sure what software I'd need to install,
but it doesn't seem to be happy about it.

Anyway, thanks for the link, I'll download that and have a play around.

Huh. Simply going to http://book.myrice.com/gd/novels/ would appear to give me exactly what I just
asked for. How about that? The only exception is that 西游记 isn't bundled, but it's only a few
HTML files, so I'll survive.

I'll have a look at writing something to convert them to the eReader format, so I can carry them
around with me.

Oh, and what's 三言两刻, and 其他作品 (EDIT: Adso told me 其他作品)?

Thanks,

- ipsi










studentyoung -



Quote:

Oh, and what's 三言两刻



Quote:

“三言”即《喻世明言》、《警世通言》、《醒世恒言》的合称。

http://baike.baidu.com/view/77569.htm “三言”

“二刻”指的应该是“二拍”


Quote:

中国拟话本小说集《初刻拍 案惊奇》和《二刻拍案惊奇》的合称。

http://baike.baidu.com/view/27371.htm “二拍”

Thanks!










ipsi() -

Thanks.

Roddy: I was kinda right. I can create Ebooks that are readable, but some characters just aren't
encoded properly, and I'm not sure why. I also can't parse it as easily as I would like as the
damn fools didn't use a standard markup between books (within books, it seems to be ok)... They
also didn't use Chinese punctuation, so I see <<...>> instead of 《...》, which is a pain when
you're using an XML processor...

I'll play around a bit more at some point and see if I can get it displaying properly, as there's
no real point if I can't.










roddy -

If you get anywhere stick them on here, they'll be appreciated. However, in my experience of Palm
PDAs and Chinese, desperately clinging to the first solution that works and not trying to do
anything clever is generally the way to go. I'd either put them into a word doc or read them via
Blazer. One advantage of this is that both Docs to Go and Blazer work with Plecodict's Instant
Access, which makes life a lot easier.










ipsi() -

Yeah, I noticed that I can't get Pleco's Instant Access working with the Ebook readers.
Admittedly, it doesn't matter if CJKOS is enabled or not, it's fucked up either way. I'll have a
look on Pleco's forums tomorrow, see if I can find anything to shed some light.

If you're interested in having them as an eBook, the best way I've found is to either mark up with
the Palm Markup Language, save it in GB2312, and convert it like that, or to not mark it up at
all, and use Mobipocket Creator (Actually, you can probably mark it up as an HTML file. Not sure
how well that'll work though. Will test more later).

The one thing I've found, though, is that you need to have a space between each character,
otherwise it just won't work. Mobipocket seems slightly better. eReader files seem to drop the
occasional character somehow, even when they don't touch exactly the same character to the left or
right (and given that there's spaces on each side of every character, it seems a bit weird...).










gato -



Quote:

Yeah, I noticed that I can't get Pleco's Instant Access working with the Ebook readers.
Admittedly, it doesn't matter if CJKOS is enabled or not, it's fucked up either way. I'll have a
look on Pleco's forums tomorrow, see if I can find anything to shed some light.

TealDoc is the only doc reader that works with "instant access", I think (outside of DocsToGo and
Blazer, that is).










ipsi() -

Interesting. Is there a particular reason for this, and thus some way to figure out what will work
with Instant Access?










gato -

I think Mike Love is the person to ask. It's probably due to hackiness of PalmOS.












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I'm going to China for a vacation in August. I want to take a 1 week full immersion Mandarin
course before meeting up with my friends. We're meeting in Beijing, where we'll be spending some
time. I'd like to spend my Mandarin week away from Beijing, so that I can experience a little more
of China. I'd like to be in a place of natural beauty, somewhat peaceful and where speakers speak
with standard accents.

I'm mainly asking for suggestions of a town/city. I figure if I know the location, I can find the
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gato -

Dalian is a good choice. It's supposedly the most beautiful city in the Northeast. The locals also
speak standard Mandarin.

You can try Taipei Language Institute's Dalian branch.

http://www.tli.com.tw/tli/eng/en/4-1.asp?class=4
Class size and course contents are flexibly offered at TLI Dalian, including different levels of
courses for Individual Classes and Group Classes (2 or more students).

Individual Classes provide a highly intensive, personalized form of instruction, which enable
students to learn Chinese at the pace suitable to individual needs and abilities. Individual Class
schedule can be flexible.










leosmith -

Thanks Gato. I sent them an email for mor info. Hmm, I see I posted this in the wrong place.
Hopefull people will see it anyway.










onebir -



Quote:

I figure if I know the location, I can find the classes

I don't think it's a good idea to count on this - you could easily throw away your week if the
teachers &/ materials aren't good. TLI's good on both counts & basically geared up for 1-1
classes* so you'd automatically get variety of teachers over the week. This gives you a bit of
insurance if you don't hit it off with some of them. + you can ask for a change & if you're only
doing a week the (somewhat exorbitant) expense hopefully won't matter too much.

* don't count too heavily on being able to do the small group classes - when I did them in Beijing
there were no suitable classmates around (or so I was told :s)












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xiaocai -

I can't explain why...It just sounds more natural to me if you put “了” after “在" in most
of the cases here.
But for "吃在了肚子里", I would say "吃到了肚子里" instead.



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Pipas -

"在 is treated as part of the verb"

Is it 趋向补语, 时地补语 or 动词后缀? I'm lost










monto -



Quote:

国企改革的最大缺憾是把职工放在了一边
他们的心停在了东经92.2度
......工作活动定格在了4月13日下午:....
........第一站就选在了贵州。

In any of the four, the "了" can be dropped out with slight changes in the meaning, because the
"了" indicates something in past.










HashiriKata -



Quote:

"在 is treated as part of the verb"

Is it 趋向补语, 时地补语 or 动词后缀? I'm lost

It's 时地补语.










cui ruide -

Maybe I don't need to point this out, but 了 doesn't necessarily represent "past" as I've seen
said here a couple of times. It's a marker for "completion" of a verb (我去了饭馆--I have
(completed) gone to the restaurant). This doesn't seem to be the case in the original example:
我爸爸不在了. Here, 了 seems just to be marking "change of state"--another common meaning.
"My dad isn't here anymore (change of state--he was, but now he's not)." Am I missing something?

了 has lots of meanings and usages, and apparently scholars right entire dissertations just on
this character alone.










gougou -

For a discussion of 了 in general, see this thread on 了, which is part of the grammar sticky.










Pipas -

HashiriKata, thank you!










yersi -

I'd hazard a wild guess and say it is a habit in spoken Chinese that's crossed over into writing.
Thanks for bringing this up, very interesting!










Pipas -

Hi again! Do you think these sentences are correct?

睡觉在这样的房子里.
..也可以撒種在好土中.
我撒下春天的种子在我们的花园里 (侃侃's lyrics)

And this is from "On the Evolution of “Ｖ在Ｌ” Structure" by Shao Hongliang:

"值得注意的是，若名词宾语前的数量修饰语　
具有实际的表数功能，名词宾语可以不用被提前。　例如：　
(22)不曾招得一个好的在家里。(«金瓶梅・第三回»)
至今还可自由地使用，如：
他写了几个字在黑板上／他放了两本书在桌上。
这些句式似乎与“表面结构法则”相违背，其原因可能是语用上的需要：
被提前的宾语往往具有有定性，而加了数量　
短语的宾语是无定的；同时“在Ｌ”位于Ｖ后，具有将处所焦点化的作用。�
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Then what about the rule "if a verb is a compound composed of a verb and an object
morphologically, the locative phrase cannot even occur after the verb compound??










HashiriKata -

The evidence you gathered seems to have indicated that it is possible.

Rules are made-up things (literally so, as there are no god-given rules!) and therefore can be
broken. And when you break a rule, you're in effect creating a new or different one, aren't you?

(Ok, I'm only talking about language rules and if you break any other kinds of rules, then working
out the implications is your sole responsibilty! )












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