Tuesday, December 9, 2008
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speldwiday -
Greetings all:
My dad and I are both big CHinese military history buffs and I was looking to get him something
really neat for CHristmas. My dad is a huge fan of the Romance of the THree Kingdoms, and his
favorite character is Zhuge Liang. He also holds the likes of Yue Fei and Zhao Yun in high regard.
I was thinking that some sort of chinese military art work would be perfect (i.e. scroll
paintings, sculptures, or porcelain art). As always, I am on a bit of a budget (no more than about
$250), so while I would prefer something historically authentic, as long as it beautifully depicts
some sort of military event/figure it will do. Anyone have any references or advice?
Also: on a totally unrelated note, I recently wrote a term paper about the Second Sino-Japanese
War and some people had expressed interest in reading it. Does anyone know how I can post that as
a link on a thread or something?
Thanks in advance; I look forward to hearing from all of you!
~bryan
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skylee -
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Also: on a totally unrelated note, I recently wrote a term paper about the Second Sino-Japanese
War and some people had expressed interest in reading it. Does anyone know how I can post that as
a link on a thread or something?
To post a link, simply paste the url on your post. To attach a document to your post, scroll down
and click on the button "Manage Attachments" in the box "additional options".
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Monday, December 8, 2008
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Hi, a friend of mine was telling me about Chatteris, an organisation that give university
graduates 9-month placements in Hong Kong schools as an English teacher:
chatteris.org.hk
I'm thinking about doing it but although I read 3 blogs written by GELTs whilst they were there, I
didn't get a huge feel for what the actual teaching life was like, considering that is what they
were doing most of the time.
Has anybody here been one of their GELTs?
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Saturday, December 6, 2008
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m.ellison -
I have had that said of me too, that I write like a primary school pupil. It is like carefully
printing each letter, when adults run all the letters together (or used to at least; these days
students learn to touch type instead).
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Friday, December 5, 2008
Chinese Pinyin - Guide to Dalian (大连) -
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Guide to Dalian (大连)
[top]Bookstores
For Chinese learning material, you can try
* Heishijiao Test Bookstore, 黑石礁考试书店, next to the KFC at the Heishijiao bus /
light rail stop. Small collection of general textbooks and HSK material.
* The Xinhua Bookstore, 民康街, third floor. Take 友好路 north from 友好广场 (NB: that
street runs both north and south, so make sure you are heading north), turn right at 民康街
and it's on your left up ahead Fourth floor also has some linguistics material that might be of
interest.
* Foreign Languages Bookstore. 外文书店. From the Xinhua Bookstore head south, first alley
on your right. Head about 100 meters down that alley and it's on your left. Chinese textbooks
are on the second floor. .
[top]Wireless Internet
Places confirmed as having reliable and free wireless Internet access.
* Starbucks Olympic Square. Not a huge number of power points, but you can usually find one.
* All's Well Cafe. Head west from the above Starbucks a couple of blocks, not sure of the exact
address.
* i55 on Gorky Street (爱伍伍,高尔基路). Two access points, one strong 11Mbps signal
and a weak 55Mbps one which I suspect comes from another cafe. The 55Mbps one works out faster,
but you may need to sit in the non-smoking section to pick it up. Some power points.
* West Coast. Opposite the 高新区 light-rail stop on 火炬路.
* Amici Coffee. On 友好路 just north of 友好广场.
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Thursday, December 4, 2008
Study Chinese - Chinese beer + Sichuan food = really bad headache? - Page 3 -
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imron -
Yanjing strikes again. Had maybe 2-3 small glasses of this over dinner last night, and started to
get a splitting headache which is still here this morning.
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cdn_in_bj -
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Yanjing strikes again. Had maybe 2-3 small glasses of this over dinner last night, and started to
get a splitting headache which is still here this morning.
I think I've found the solution to Chinese beer and headaches:
Laugh if you may, but to me this "yanjing wu chun" doesn't taste any worse than the regular
Chinese beers. It only contains 0.5% alcohol so you won't get a buzz, but there's no headache
either. Of course, I'll have to repeat the experiment a few more times before I can declare it a
success.
gougou -
So it contains 0.5% alcohol and says alcoholfree in big letters on the label? This country keeps
on surprising me.
cdn_in_bj -
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So it contains 0.5% alcohol and says alcoholfree in big letters on the label? This country keeps
on surprising me.
I know it seems contradictory, but even amongst the western breweries it is common to have
"alcohol-free" beer that contains 0.5% alcohol - very few are truly 0%. Even fruit juice contains
a tiny bit of alcohol.
monto -
Maybe the beer is to blame if you are allergic.
If so, all beers are to blame, but not necessarily Chinese beer only. As matter of fact, beer is
one of the things Chinese learned from Westerners.
I like it very much.
A bottle of beer a day, keeps the doctor away.
cdn_in_bj -
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Maybe the beer is to blame if you are allergic.
In my case, I don't think it's an allergy to beer in general, but rather a sensitivity to
impurities leftover from the brewing process which are not filtered out as well as in other
western beers. And as I wrote previously, I only get this reaction with Yanjing beer.
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If so, all beers are to blame, but not necessarily Chinese beer only. As matter of fact, beer is
one of the things Chinese learned from Westerners.
I like it very much.
Me too!
Quote:
A bottle of beer a day, keeps the doctor away.
You do bring up a good point, that when consumed in moderation, beer has many health benefits.
imron -
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Maybe the beer is to blame if you are allergic.
Like I said previously, I'll usually only get this reaction with Yanjing beer, so I don't know
what it is that they do differently.
monto -
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Like I said previously, I'll usually only get this reaction with Yanjing beer, so I don't know
what it is that they do differently.
Is it possible that some ingredients in the beer should become inactive as time goes shortly after
the production, but Yanjing sometimes goes to the dinner table too fast?
I know a foodstuff called “黑木耳” (black fungus) . There is a photo-sensitive content in
it that slowly become inactive. So too fresh harvest is not the good one to eat.
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Wednesday, December 3, 2008
Chinese School - "Lesson plan" for myself (feedback requested) -
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shibole -
Well, this may seem a bit insane, and I know I should probably just take a class, but for various
reasons (including money) I don't want to do that right now. Since I have a native speaker at my
disposal (my wife, though unfortunately she isn't a language teacher) I decided to try to use a
real textbook (Integrated Chinese) and go through it in a manner similar to how a class would.
I thought I'd try to do one "lesson" (chapter in the book) per week. If you're not familiar with
the book I'm using, it looks like each lesson has two dialogs which each demonstrate vocabulary,
grammar, etc. Here's what I came up with. I'm using the textbook and the workbook, but not the
character workbook or audio CDs.
Any feedback regarding my sanity or the below plan would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Chinese Lesson Plan
Using Integrated Chinese Level 1 Part 1
1. Monday – Dialog 1
1. Add new flashcards to pile
2. Write each new character N times
3. Workbook listening comprehension exercises
i. Have speaker read dialog from textbook
ii. Have speaker make up dialogs to match “workbook dialog” questions
4. Review Grammar notes for dialog 1
5. Brief Pronunciation Exercises with focus on anything troublesome
2. Tuesday – Dialog 1 again
1. Flashcard vocabulary test for Dialog 1
2. Workbook reading, writing, and grammar exercises
3. Pattern drills for Dialog 1
4. Brief Pronunciation Exercises with focus on anything troublesome
3. Wednesday – Dialog 2
1. Same as Monday except with Dialog 2
4. Thursday – Dialog 2 again
1. Same as Tuesday except with Dialog 2
5. Friday
1. Add supplementary vocabulary flashcards to pile
2. Write each new character N times
3. Pronunciation exercises (full)
4. Tests
i. Vocabulary (flashcards)
ii. Reading (sentences)
iii. Writing (have speaker speak sentences and write them?)
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Lu -
Plan looks ok, I'd add more character writing though. Review new vocab, including characters,
every day, if at all possible.
What might suffer without a teacher: pronounciation and understanding of grammar. When you ask why
something is said X rather than Y, you might often get the answer 'that's just how we say it'.
shibole -
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Plan looks ok, I'd add more character writing though.
Would you say that's it's better to write say 20 of each character a day rather than 40 one day
and none the next?
Also, when just starting out, how many times should I write each character do you think?
Would just copying sentences also be useful? I have written exercises but I'm not sure if the
writing is enough.
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What might suffer without a teacher: pronounciation and understanding of grammar. When you ask why
something is said X rather than Y, you might often get the answer 'that's just how we say it'.
I know that that is what I end up saying every time my wife asks me about English grammar
yonglin -
if insufficient understanding of grammar is a concern, there are a few quite good grammar books
out there, from what i've heard.
shibole -
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if insufficient understanding of grammar is a concern, there are a few quite good grammar books
out there, from what i've heard.
Are you thinking of something like this?http://amazon.com/gp/product/0071377646/I have it on my
list of things to buy but figured that it would be pointless until later.
simonlaing -
I think the quiz's and tests are important parts of the learning.
I think a few more interesting exercises can help with learning and help if your wife isn't as
charismatic as you would hope.
Things like her giving you a situation where you would use the words and you have to make up a
dialog about it.
Writing short paragraphs can help. (Writing is best, but if you're a beginner you might enjoy
typing as it is much easier.)
learning to sing chinese song, laoshu ai da mi is a simpler one (Love you like a mouse loves big
rice )
Watching movies and speaking after them works sometimes too, espicially to get your mouth in to
the positions it will need to be to make the sounds. (Romantic or older drama movies people speak
slower.) Junky HK police movies sometime just teach you good profanity.
Doing role plays is good.
Also often going back and reviewing or building on what you know. If you don't review you will
forget it, (Chinese is difficult).
Good luck,
have fun,
Simon
Simon
roddy -
Can you get tapes or CD's for the textbooks - you can make much better use of your wife than
getting her to read stuff out of the book - getting her to point out when your pronunciation is
wrong and engaging in realistic if simple dialogs for a start. I realize you've got that in there
already, but I would get her to spend time on what a CD can't do.
As for simple dialogs, I can't see anything in there where you are actually talking your own talk
as it were. Sure, you're at a low level, but there's no reason you can't go through 'where are you
from; I'm from ____' several dozen times.
On copying sentences, you're much better off creating your own ones. Same grammar, different
words, etc. Create is > copy.
shibole -
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I think the quiz's and tests are important parts of the learning.
I think you are right, I'm just not sure what to use for those. There are some here:
http://eall.hawaii.edu/yao/icusers/tcforic.htm but of course they're restricted to teachers and if
I were the one hosting those I wouldn't give them out to any random person who claimed to be using
them on their own.... Any ideas on how to generate quizes/tests?
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Can you get tapes or CD's for the textbooks - you can make much better use of your wife than
getting her to read stuff out of the book
I can but I'm not sure if that's worth $40. There isn't too much for her to read and I want her to
listen to my pronunciation anyway, so I'm not sure it would save her any time. I am using some
online pinyin apps that play sounds, etc., so I'm not totally relying on her.
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As for simple dialogs, I can't see anything in there where you are actually talking your own talk
as it were. Sure, you're at a low level, but there's no reason you can't go through 'where are you
from; I'm from ____' several dozen times.
That's what the "substitution drills" are. The textbook has a number of those per lesson. They
seem to be based on both dialogs though (rather than some only using vocab from dialog 1) so I
might just have to learn both dialogs up front.
Quote:
Things like her giving you a situation where you would use the words and you have to make up a
dialog about it.
Writing short paragraphs can help. (Writing is best, but if you're a beginner you might enjoy
typing as it is much easier.)
I'm going to stick with writing vs. typing, otherwise I'll never learn to write properly. I'm
interested in calligraphy anyway so writing is pretty important to me. For me, for some reason,
the speaking and listening is much harder than reading and writing
Thanks for the other ideas!
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Tuesday, December 2, 2008
Pnyin - 徒富 -
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anonymoose -
What does 徒富 mean? It's not in my dictionary.
The complete sentence (from this page) is
但是父亲认为他自己起的名字较为适宜,既不夸张,也不徒富诗意而失真实�
��致有矫揉造作的毛病,如“半亩园”便是。
In fact, if anyone could translate the whole sentence, that would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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skylee -
單單具有
徒 - In vain, merely
富 - abundant in
anonymoose -
Thanks, skylee. That makes a bit more sense. I didn't realise they were to be interpreted
separately.
magudo -
you should break the sentence like this
也不·徒·富诗意·而·失真实
“徒”and “富”are separate, not one word
“富”should read with“诗意”
fireball9261 -
但是父亲认为他自己起的名字较为适宜,既不夸张,也不徒富诗意而失真实�
��致有矫揉造作的毛病,如“半亩园”
But father thought the name he made was more suitable; it's not flamboyant, nor just filled with
poetic sense and had the problem of being pretentious, like "Half-Acre Garden".
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