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could someone tell me what's written here: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1858/dscn0327hq3.jpg



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skylee -

Those are names of different dishes.

I've seen a similar work of art and posted a photo at signese.com ->
http://www.signese.com/2007/05/24/%e8%ad%af%e5%90%8d/

Another copy here ->











green.panda -

thanks a lot. and could you tell me what names exactly are there? just a few of them.










fireball9261 -

Yangzhou fried rice, raw fish, lobster salad, crab, steamed salmon, etc.

It looks like an old Cantonese restaurant menu.












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mingming -

The poem is from Guang Daosheng

You and I ~GUAN Daosheng (Sung Dynasty)

"You and I are so crazy
about each other,
as hot as a potter's fire.
Out of the same chunk
of clay, shape a you,
shape a me. Crush us
both into clay again, mix
it with water, reshape
a you, reshape a me.
So, I have you in my body,
and you'll have me forever in yours, too."


Can someone find it?



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管道升(1262~1319),字仲姬,德清县茅山村(今属干山乡)人，元代著名的女性书法�
��、画家、诗词创作家。

《我侬词》--管道升

你侬我侬，忒煞多情
情多处，热似火
把一块泥，捻一个你，塑一个我
将咱们两个一齐打破
用水调和
再捏一个你，再塑一个我
我泥中有你，你泥中有我
与你生同一个衾,死同一个椁.










student -

Skylee posted this before:

http://www. /showthread.php?t=1419:


Quote:

Here is another lovely poem from Yuan Dynasty -

Quote:
我儂詞 (管道昇)
你儂我儂，忒煞情多，情多處，熱如火。
把一塊泥，捻一個你，塑一個我。
將咱兩個，一齊打破，用水調和。
再捻一個你，再塑一個我。
我泥中有你，你泥中有我。
與你生同一個衾，死同一個槨。
And a nice English translation from this webpage -

Quote:
You and I
Have so much love,
That it
Burns like a fire,
In which we bake a lump of clay
Molded into a figure of you
And a figure of me
Then we take both of them,
And break them into pieces,
And mix the pieces with water,
And mold again a figure of you,
And a figure of me.
I am in your clay.
You are in my clay.
In life we share a single quilt.
In death we will share one coffin.

The translation, I believe, is by Qiu Xiaolong












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Josh2007 -

But Chinese people do often pronounce 熟悉 as shóuxi, and it is in the Wenlin dictionary as
shóuxi as well as shúxī. 角色 is in the Wenlin dictionary as jiǎosè as well as juésè. In
fact the entry under juésè just says "role, part"; but the entry under jiǎosè says "1. role
(in a play etc); 2. function, position; 3. star, celebrity". 模样 is in Wenlin under both
móyàng and múyàng. I have said elsewhere that maybe Wenlin aka the ABCD dictionary adopts a
"descriptive" rather than a "prescriptive" approach? How are you defining the standard? You mean
by using the Contemporary Chinese Dictionary as the final arbiter?



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muyongshi -

I don't know specifically their thought process in either of those dictionaries but you have to
consider those are dictionaries produced for language learners, specifically english speakers. If
you find one of those big honking Chinese-Chinese dictionary that is used for standard mandarin
those things will not be included...










muyongshi -

I remembered another one again today 给予
incorrect: gei yu
correc: ji yu

Very few people pronounce it ji yu even though that is correct....










ABCinChina -

Luoman, most of the examples you provided can be pronounced both ways except for 血 in which I've
never heard anybody pronounce it xue4.

誰 - I always use shei2 but I often hear it as shui2 in China.










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誰 - I always use shei2 but I often hear it as shui2 in China.

That is the official thing though.

In all the other examples 灸, 血, 熟 are the mispronunciations. The 处 depends on the
situation (meaning what compound word it is with) 熟 can be pronounced shou if it is used alone.
But compound it can't 血3 and 灸1 are not in any official mandarin dictionary.










fireball9261 -

This thread really messed up my pronunciation now. There are the proper ways to pronounce things
in Mandarin. However, sometimes if you pronounce with the proper ways, people would look at you
funny and then correct your pronunciations to the really "proper" way of pronunciations.
Therefore, I don't bother with the really "incorrect" but popular ways of pronunciations just so I
don't get into pronunciation arguments with someone. Besides, as someone in this thread said,
language changes over time. I have seen a lot of "proper" Chinese words and phrases got
transformed into something else just over my life time. I think some of the Chinese dictionaries
need to get an update and re-print soon.










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Quote:

However, sometimes if you pronounce with the proper ways, people would look at you funny and then
correct your pronunciations to the really "proper" way of pronunciations.

I agree with you 100%. I just make sure I know both and in class I use "standard" and with
everyone else I use "real" mandarin. It would be nice if they atleast discussed the current trends
(especially with 血) and considered changing the tones or atleast adding the option...










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Quote:


Originally Posted by muyongshi

It would be nice if they atleast discussed the current trends (especially with 血) and considered
changing the tones or atleast adding the option...


It seems that 血 is always on your mind. I don't really have much chance to use the word ...










fireball9261 -

It also bugs me whenever people pronounce 血 no matter which way they go. I am a very bloody
minded Chinese woman -- I think it's probably due to my pirates ancestors (Wenzhou was a major
Chinese and Japanese pirate base for a few hundred years).












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drahnier -

What actually determins the amount of space between multiple choices in Definition Test Mode?



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bogleg -

Does every card have this same weird spacing? And is this just happening in the recent build? The
spacing is supposed to be consistent.

Chris










drahnier -

a lot of cards have this (approx. 30%), and it is not new to this build. but if i remember
correctly, i never saw this wit any 0.6.x build.












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heifeng -

盘根错节pán gēn cuò jié: w/ twisted roots and gnarled branches ~ complicated and difficult
to deal with.. (sounds like an useful chengyu to me)
三七 san1qi1: pseudo ginseng or Sanchi see here and here

怪圈 guai4quan1: vicious circle, but then there is 麦田怪圈 for crop circles...which is nice
and random

oh...and from watching too much random entertainment television...囧 jiong3 suppose to be the
newest most popular character online these days...the expression on the lil' guy's face says it
all for what it means..or just search it...



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Lu -

愛樂 ai4yue4 philharmonic. From the name of one or the other philharmonic orchestra. In a way it
makes so much sense: 愛樂 = love music = phil-harmonic. But at the same time it's rather
tautological in the name of an orchestra: if they didn't love music, they wouldn't be sitting
there playing it now would they.










randall_flagg -

布洛芬释胶囊 bu4luo4fen1shi4jiao1nang2 ibuprofen source: friend with a toothache.










zhwj -

胶囊 is a capsule, 布洛芬 is ibuprofen in any form (which may be useful if they don't have
capsules).










ajax -

I always ask for 芬必得/fen1bi4de2. I guess it's a brand name, but it's kind of like saying
tylenol rather than acetaminophen.

Another one: 环丙沙星/huan2bing3sha1xing1 (Cipro). Resisting the urge to take this right now
(ate some bad 烧烤).










imron -

Not a new word, but an interesting phrase:
人不行,怪路不平 - rén bù xíng，guài lù bù píng - An equivalent of "a poor workman
always blames his tools".










randall_flagg -

售罄 shou4qing4 to be completely sold out.
Source: An article about the tickets for Beijing Games.










Lu -

綱領 gang3ling3 essential guidelines, program, platform, for example of the CCP.
Seen this word before and always read it as wangling (網領) and couldn't find it anywhere. My
coworker just set me right. I feel Chinese tripped me and is now laughing in my face, really loud,
while I am on the ground squeeking: It's not fair!! 誰叫你 to make two characters look exactly
alike!










skylee -



Quote:

exactly alike!












heifeng -

from watching healthy olympics living something or rather today and an interesting segment about
胃病:

幽门 you1men2: Pylorus

and while we are on 幽, let's also go with something funner:

幽会you1hui4: a lover's rendezvous.....I learned this from a former coworker at a dinner when
she announced she was going to go on one so had to hurry up and leave...so now it's forever
branded in my memory and whenever I think of her, it reminds me of this word plus this classic

and since we are still on y's, why not

臃肿 yong1zhong3: so overweight one cannot move...or of an organization being overstaffed, or
even clothing being overly cumbersome. (this one was just from flipping through the dictionary for
another probably more useful word...which of course I don't even remember now)












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muyongshi -

What is F5 do???? Talking to a mac user here



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imron -

If you're using firefox, f5 does the same on a mac as it does on windows - it reloads the page. So
basically if you get a database error, don't sit there pressing refresh until everything works,
but go and have a coffee or something and when you get back everything should be back to normal.










muyongshi -

You learn something everyday.....

Speaking of coffee....










ipsi() -

http://www. /forums.php is giving me a Database Error when trying to load it.
Weirdly, this page, and the front page both work fine. In fact, everywhere works fine except the
main Forum Page... e.g. going to http://www. /forumdisplay.php?f=4 works just
fine...

The full text is: Database error
The database has encountered a problem.

Any ideas Roddy?










imron -

merged question with answer.










ipsi() -

Woot. Hadn't realised it was quite so common.










roddy -

Yeah, something odd happened this morning - looks like the server backed itself up four time in
quick succession.










roddy -

Server is hiccuping repeatedly - I've done what I can on my end and have dropped a line to the
hosting company.












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Josh-zhang -

wow, his chinese is really good. BTW, jiasen, ni hao.



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Gestalt -

Here's another video of him doing a TV interview in Mandarin as the newly elected prime minister

陆克文总理中央台访问 Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Chinese State TV










muyongshi -

He's not bad! Not the best at all, but also considering the fact that he no longer lives in China
and probably very infrequently speaks it, I would say that he is doing okay. Yeah maybe it's all
screen prompted but even then....he's not talking monotone so he at least knows whats coming out
of his mouth










yonglin -

Yeh. Definitely some awe factor. Not because his Chinese is brilliant, but because he is a
politician and the freaking prime minister.

I wish some important politicians of my country would have passable foreign language skills....
they'll know some broken English, at best....










self-taught-mba -

Loads faster here:

http://you.video.sina.com.cn/b/8635930-1255849511.html

Commenting on this video:

It's good to see a politician speaking Mandarin it underscores the importance of learning it ( I
hope )

Don't really want this to become a bash contest here. He is able to communicate well enough,
although I think he was going on a little bit towards the end of the interview when the journalist
was trying to bid him farewell and good luck and he kept going. LOL

Tones are off, rhythm is awful, but he is communicating at least. His grammar is probably better
than mine because I have horrible grammar. (Self-taught people like myself sometimes end up
stringing sentences together which would make sense in English anyway, (our students are spared
the mistake!))

I expect better of the students we serve (and myself), but I think it's important to recognize
everyone's accomplishments and background.

Simple word choice mistakes people can learn from though:
he shouldn't use po4shi3 in this case but rather qiang3po4 (unless he possibly meant to say
po4shi4, which is highly doubtful as it is seldom used)
he uses bi3sai4 where jing4zheng1 or xuan3ju3 would be the appropriate choice

Honestly didn't watch the whole thing; skipped through half of it watched parts of the beginning
and the end.

I did like the part where the interviewer was asking him about increased opportunities or
something of that matter for Chinese going to Australia to study etc. with a look on his face that
would make it difficult for anybody to answer - dead serious look.










imron -

I found it amusing how he was speaking in Chinese, and then it would cut to the Chinese
interviewer asking him questions in English, that and when the interviewer addressed him as 老陆.










benjaminbauert -

Alexander Downer was a twerp and an embarassment. Here's to better days!

Happy Australia Day!












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