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ipsi() -

I'm vaguely interested in acquiring 红楼梦、三国演义、水浒传和西游记, but
preferably as Ebooks. They seem old enough that they're no longer in copyright I don't suppose
anyone knows if they exist in the format for Palm eReader? Or even just if they exist in
electronic form at all?

Also, my Chinese is not good enough to understand them yet, I'm merely looking into this because I
can.

Actually, while I'm at it, does anyone know if there are electronic versions of other famous texts
floating around? Along with a list of famous texts?

Thanks all!

- ipsi



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roddy -

Palm Reader or any other actual ebook format I don't think so - in fact, if you know of any Palm
format which will read Chinese characters, let me know.

However, finding the books themselves shouldn't be too hard - I turned up one just by searching
for the title, and I suspect the others will be easy too - try adding dianzishu or dianziban
(where's my characters gone! ) as well.

That's in HTML format and there's also a download. What you'll need to do to get that onto your
palm is basically do some copying and pasting into a word document and then read it via docs to go
- not ideal, but it works. Best thing to do is transfer the file to an SD card and then put it in
your palm - using the docs to go or palm file transfer programs can sometimes cause problems. Also
make sure you've got English file names.










ipsi() -

Actually, I've found that by using CJK OS, I can read Simplified Chinese (and probably
Traditional, but that's an unknown factor) by doing the following:

Write a text file using Palm's Markup Language
Save that text file in GB2312 encoding, run it through palms eBook creation software, hot-sync,
make sure that CJK OS is enabled, and away you go. Of course, if you want to read a non-Chinese
Ebook then I'd recommend disabling CJK OS as it seems to interfere with eReader. And mixing
Chinese and English would be a bad idea as CJK OS intereferes with the English.

What actually hurts is that I can't view Pinyin. I'm not sure what software I'd need to install,
but it doesn't seem to be happy about it.

Anyway, thanks for the link, I'll download that and have a play around.

Huh. Simply going to http://book.myrice.com/gd/novels/ would appear to give me exactly what I just
asked for. How about that? The only exception is that 西游记 isn't bundled, but it's only a few
HTML files, so I'll survive.

I'll have a look at writing something to convert them to the eReader format, so I can carry them
around with me.

Oh, and what's 三言两刻, and 其他作品 (EDIT: Adso told me 其他作品)?

Thanks,

- ipsi










studentyoung -



Quote:

Oh, and what's 三言两刻



Quote:

“三言”即《喻世明言》、《警世通言》、《醒世恒言》的合称。

http://baike.baidu.com/view/77569.htm “三言”

“二刻”指的应该是“二拍”


Quote:

中国拟话本小说集《初刻拍 案惊奇》和《二刻拍案惊奇》的合称。

http://baike.baidu.com/view/27371.htm “二拍”

Thanks!










ipsi() -

Thanks.

Roddy: I was kinda right. I can create Ebooks that are readable, but some characters just aren't
encoded properly, and I'm not sure why. I also can't parse it as easily as I would like as the
damn fools didn't use a standard markup between books (within books, it seems to be ok)... They
also didn't use Chinese punctuation, so I see <<...>> instead of 《...》, which is a pain when
you're using an XML processor...

I'll play around a bit more at some point and see if I can get it displaying properly, as there's
no real point if I can't.










roddy -

If you get anywhere stick them on here, they'll be appreciated. However, in my experience of Palm
PDAs and Chinese, desperately clinging to the first solution that works and not trying to do
anything clever is generally the way to go. I'd either put them into a word doc or read them via
Blazer. One advantage of this is that both Docs to Go and Blazer work with Plecodict's Instant
Access, which makes life a lot easier.










ipsi() -

Yeah, I noticed that I can't get Pleco's Instant Access working with the Ebook readers.
Admittedly, it doesn't matter if CJKOS is enabled or not, it's fucked up either way. I'll have a
look on Pleco's forums tomorrow, see if I can find anything to shed some light.

If you're interested in having them as an eBook, the best way I've found is to either mark up with
the Palm Markup Language, save it in GB2312, and convert it like that, or to not mark it up at
all, and use Mobipocket Creator (Actually, you can probably mark it up as an HTML file. Not sure
how well that'll work though. Will test more later).

The one thing I've found, though, is that you need to have a space between each character,
otherwise it just won't work. Mobipocket seems slightly better. eReader files seem to drop the
occasional character somehow, even when they don't touch exactly the same character to the left or
right (and given that there's spaces on each side of every character, it seems a bit weird...).










gato -



Quote:

Yeah, I noticed that I can't get Pleco's Instant Access working with the Ebook readers.
Admittedly, it doesn't matter if CJKOS is enabled or not, it's fucked up either way. I'll have a
look on Pleco's forums tomorrow, see if I can find anything to shed some light.

TealDoc is the only doc reader that works with "instant access", I think (outside of DocsToGo and
Blazer, that is).










ipsi() -

Interesting. Is there a particular reason for this, and thus some way to figure out what will work
with Instant Access?










gato -

I think Mike Love is the person to ask. It's probably due to hackiness of PalmOS.












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