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Qiuyue -

Hi

I am in need of books, DVDs and the like to be used in a seminar on "sex and relations in china".
I have searched on Amazon a lot, and found many interesting academic textbooks.
I would, however, also like to read a few novels (modern or antique : ) and watch movies that
could illustrate or raise thoughts on this topic. Study-material that is (yes, there will be real
stories invovled as well )

So, all recommendations are highly appreciated

Thanks



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gougou -

I guess I can't help you with the primary aim of your search, but this (just came in through
Danwei today) might come in handy.










gato -

Are you teaching it in China? To what kind of students? Can you give us some examples of what you
are going to teach?










furyou_gaijin -

Judging by the title, I thought this thread was about finding a 'girl-friend' for purposes of
studying the language... Highly recommended.










MartinF -

"sex and relations in china"

well I recommend all kinds of things. First some DVD's:

these are the English titles (or romanization of Chinese titles). You will have to find the
Chinese titles if you want to find them in China:

"Ju Dou" village life, marriage and infidelity. Starring Gong Li.
"In the mood for love" Hong Kong city life in the 1960's, marriage, infidelity. Starring Chow
Mo-wan (Tony Leung) and Su Li-zhen (Maggie Cheung).
"Beijing Bicycle" teenage love in modern Beijing.
"Chungking Express" Hong Kong city life in the 1990's. Frustrated, unrequited love.

One common theme in most of these movies is unrequited love. Meaning love is never consummated.
Oh, and lot of frustrated people who can't communicate with eachother. So in many of these movies
sex never actually happens because nobody actually tells their partner how they feel. Or nobody
acts on their feelings. It's a little strange for westerners because we almost always tell
eachother how we feel. We tend to be more proactive about dating and sex. It's OK for women to
make the first move.

I also have an American friend in Beijing. We both used to work at Disney on animated films. He
moved to Beijing and he writes an advice column for Chinese students with love problems. It's
pretty good. Here are links to some of his columns, so far. He writes for some English language
newspaper in Beijing.

http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483444-O-LB
http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483521-O-LB
http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483561-O-LB
http://mfoster.smugmug.com/gallery/3...170483480-O-LB

Finally, I also have some experience in this area and can compare it to western "sex and
relations" in quite a lot of detail. You probably should e-mail me on some specifics, if you want.

Martin










yonitabonita -

Hey,

I gave a lecture on this very topic several years back. I can't for the hell of me find my
bibliography, but a few names come to mind:

- Judith Farquar, "Food and Sex in Post- Industrialist China".

- Jianying Zha by Jianying Zha, "China Pop: How Soap Operas, Tabloids and Bestsellers Are
Transforming a Culture"

- Mu zi mei - If you do a google search on her, you'll probably find some very interesting
material. She basically had sex with a heap of guys and posted her secrets all over the internet.
The internet readership of her blog was phenomenal. So, the whole phenomenon was very telling in
terms of the development of sex in China - if you compare sexual attitudes in China in the 70's to
that of today, (ok, Muzimei was 5 years ago now), there's arguably a huge change.

- Shanghai Baby will give you a perspective on sex in China.

- Roman Weber, "Made in China" talks about youth underground, and there's something in his book
about sex.

I hope this helps.

Y

edit: whoops, I just realised you didn't need any academic texts. Should read more carefully.










gato -

Check out this video about speed dating:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Ra_BgL3mIfw/










jonaspony -

I am interested in how Asian women have become sexual commodities in the West - why all the
interest in Asian sex? Why has the phrase "me love you longtime" become so entrenched in English
language that I found it as a label on a dog's rawhide chewtoy? Why are reports of Chinese sex
habits such world news that the BBC reports them at about two-yearly intervals? (When the
extramarital-sex statistics are investigated further it shows the change is far less significant
than they propose i.e. most of the extramarital sex occurs between people who later were married).

China's sexual history is colouful and titillating. But does it seem to anyone else that
Westerners have a slightly morbid desire to see China become Western, and most importantly, to
adopt Western morals? That modernisation is not enough - that it must be Westernised?










Qiuyue -

Thank you all so much for quick and informative responses.

As for the seminar, it is kind of privately organised, with foreign students attending.

I hadn´t heard about "China Pop", but also it is already more than a decade since it was written,
it might be outdated??

"Shanghai baby" is certainly on my list, but I think I need something to "counter" that one. I am
absolutely sure it is not representative of the life of girls and boys, men and women in more
"remote" (as it is called...) areas.
And I think my biggest challenge is to find material on those more ordinary people of the villages
and smaller and poorer towns of China. Maybe "Private life under socialism" at least could give
som historical insights.


Has anyone read "The culture of sex in ancient china" (rakita goldin)?










simonlaing -

Dear Qiuyue,

If your chinese is up to par, there is a good recent 3 years old , movie called cell phone or
shouji 手机 about how the advances in cell phone empower wives of VIP people like this talk show
host to find out about lovers and even get evidence to black mail people.

Also I wonder if a look at the law codes might help, often if divorces are not mutual they can
take a very long time, so the man often can set the terms , even sometime keeping custody of
children who get promptly sent to the grandparents for being raised.

There is are still issues surrounding divorce in China, with certain official univerisities nad
other government agenicies limiting promotion in their jobs,
have fun,
Simon












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